But when she left the nurturing nest that was the Browns' home, she first moved in with Robert Evans, Hollywood producer/one-time head of Paramount Pictures, who was implicated in the murder of Roy Radin ("the Cotton Club Murder"). Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or : murdered right after Ron's death. .c_dVyWK3BXRxSN3ULLJ_t{border-radius:4px 4px 0 0;height:34px;left:0;position:absolute;right:0;top:0}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;margin-top:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._33jgwegeMTJ-FJaaHMeOjV{border-radius:9001px;height:32px;width:32px}._1OQL3FCA9BfgI57ghHHgV3 ._1wQQNkVR4qNpQCzA19X4B6{height:16px;margin-left:8px;width:200px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:12px 0}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._29TSdL_ZMpyzfQ_bfdcBSc{-ms-flex:1;flex:1}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx .JEV9fXVlt_7DgH-zLepBH{height:18px;width:50px}._39IvqNe6cqNVXcMFxFWFxx ._3YCOmnWpGeRBW_Psd5WMPR{height:12px;margin-top:4px;width:60px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN{height:18px;margin-bottom:4px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2E9u5XvlGwlpnzki78vasG{width:230px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN.fDElwzn43eJToKzSCkejE{width:100%}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._2kNB7LAYYqYdyS85f8pqfi{width:250px}._2iO5zt81CSiYhWRF9WylyN._1XmngqAPKZO_1lDBwcQrR7{width:120px}._3XbVvl-zJDbcDeEdSgxV4_{border-radius:4px;height:32px;margin-top:16px;width:100%}._2hgXdc8jVQaXYAXvnqEyED{animation:_3XkHjK4wMgxtjzC1TvoXrb 1.5s ease infinite;background:linear-gradient(90deg,var(--newCommunityTheme-field),var(--newCommunityTheme-inactive),var(--newCommunityTheme-field));background-size:200%}._1KWSZXqSM_BLhBzkPyJFGR{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBackgroundColor);border-radius:4px;padding:12px;position:relative;width:auto} A wizard on evidence. >On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:12:39 -0500, al walker >wrote: >>> How did OJ's blood get at the scene and in his Bronco?>>>>, >>you have been told sixteen times, the dna came back as simpsons,>>because the samples marked for those places were substituted for >>blood taken from OJs drive and foyer. Yeah, bobsure. They stopped at a bank branch in Hollywood, so Nigg could withdraw some money from his account. Or at home? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He has been described as the maitre 'd at the Mezzaluna, and also "Director of Operations". Your choice.-- Scott Matteson, CNA | "Okay, hard drinkers: let's drink hard. I must have missed that! If only the murders in which the killer's clothes and weapons were available for examination could be solved then our streets would be teeming with murderers like Butch Simpson. For all Furhman knew, OJ had been at a supermarket on multiple security cameras from 9:30 to 10:30. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} The second car seen by Park matched the description of Arnelle's Saab, but Arnelle claimed she returned at 1 a.m. She contradicted three detectives on how they entered the house (they said they entered through the rear door; moreover, Phillips testified that "no alarm went off", which suggests that Arnelle might have had it disabled by then). Quite an accomplishment in absurdity. Slashed throats. Red Lobster. you have been told sixteen times, the dna came back as simpsons,because the samples marked for those places were substituted for blood taken from OJs drive and foyer. Were they found? I might say the same about the doctor who was supposed to make sure your brain was still functional during your last check up. Best all type of . The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) looked for the suspects over the weekend but found no leads. > Exact same size and style of shoe, huh? colo@crl.com | I'm buyin'. : the wrong place at the : wrong time. Prove that he held title to the Mercedes. >>People who know how to levitate and not leave any physical trace of their>>presence -- except for one of them who just happened to own the exact same>>size and style shoe as Simpson did (but lied about). Have you excluded contamination? By subscribing to this BDG newsletter, you agree to our. Have you excludedplanting? I last saw him at a house party of his ex-girlfriend. Now I know this is America and you can believe whatever you want but..come on. He had to pin than: guilt on someone and it was OJ. : Subject: : MEZZALUNA CONNECTION--RON GOLDMAN: Date: : Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:00:13 -0800: Newsgroups: : alt.journalism,altcurrent-events.usa,talk.politics.guns, : 11/25/96 AT 10:20 pm ON CHNL 13 UPN LOS ANGELES. "The place wasn't a restaurant anymore. are widely accepted as such by pro-prosecution folks. Many working at Mezzaluna were involved with the Mafia and/or the drug trade. For the fallacious pro-murderers who close their eyes to the truth, they can envision (or wish away) anything they want. The cut Simpson received at home was relatively small (nobody noticed) and looked like a paper cut (Baden). "Acknowledging"that mindless bullshit!? This is when he made the Bruno Magli shoeprint inside. Press J to jump to the feed. He is a lying genocidal racist biased against interracial couples. Simpson left it there some time earlier. Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or > >murdered right after Ron's death. Cansomeone tell me why he latched on to OJ right from the start as being themurderer? Why because Ron Goldman's 3 best friends were killed or : murdered right after Ron's death. "Lawyer - One skilled in circumvention of the law" - The Devil's Dictionary. 's innocent! Just in case they miss the first set, go back and walk through the blood again. The people behind the backs of the victims controlled when the killings happened (note the control cuts on Goldman's neck), so they were kind enough to let their companions step back before the big gushers started. Police detectives broke state law and their own policy when they waited hours to summon the county coroner. Why go to Bundy and start on Nicole, and wait for Ron to come through the gate? Blue-black fiber on the evidence? I think the saddest thing about the OJ criminal investigation is theydidn't go outside the scope of OJ and Nichol. A neighbor who lived nearby on Gorham Avenue in Brentwood said Goldman was struggling to make the rent until he got a new job this year as a waiter at Mezzaluna, an upscale restaurant. kk" Now I don't have one computer on my desk, I have millions. and Nicole even after they broke up, O.J. When Ron was changing clothes at home alone it was more convenient for them to start killing Nicole first and wait for him to show up. It's amazing what an emotional reaction is produced by someone simplystating a defense theory that is absolutely as good as ANY prosecutiontheory of guilt. It was obvious that he was selling cocaine driving that Mercedes. The original blood was the real killer's (he also happened to get injured that night: the B blood under Nicole's fingernails!) >Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they >attack Nicole. How about when you know you have a sure conclusion to make you don't waste time fantasizing about those mafia hitmen from New York and how they might be involved? Mezzaluna Willits $$$ Italian, . Alexander Alekhine, one of the greatest world chess champions whoroutinely found combinations that are far beyond the ability ofcomputers that can calculate 200 million moves per second, wrote thatJews' decadent minds could only play inferior chess. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} of America's Most Wanted. Among his friends and coworkers there was Ronald Goldman. Just some smudge planted by the LAPD. An O.J. And don't forget, if you think Simpson did it,YOU have to explain how the blood got there to the fair exlusion ofany other explanation -- including planing. : Glad to see that you at least acknowledging that one person wasn't able. World-class clueless conjectures based on nothing butprejudice. He was shot and killed during an apparent robbery attempt in Hollywood. Simpson's. He likely thought Oj did it, but he did not have enough information to make the decision to plant the glove at 5AM. The connection is that they all worked at Mezzaluna. Images: M. 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Thats>>why the initials on the bindles prepared properly by mazzola , were>>no longer on the bindles that went to the labs, The real evidence>>blood samples from those places were disposed of, and thats why the >>initials are not there. It seems like a typical robbery-gone-wrong and the arrested suspects, who were later released, may very well be the killers. > > How did OJ's blood get at the scene and in his Bronco? OJ even told the detectives>>that those drops were his blood, so the samples marked from the>>bronco and the five drops next to bloody footprints, were changed>>to the blood that was collected from OJs house and drive. Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole first? Well, Bodziak also agreed that if these imprints were shoeprints, they had to be made by a small shoe. Simpson received the LA cut and the scratches when he tried (unsuccessfully) to prevent Arnelle from going to Bundy. Mazzola had nothing to do with the frame.>>and it only took a few minutes to remove and replace the bindles.>>only thing was, the one doing the frame, didnt know mazzola put her>>initials on the real evidence. > guilt on someone and it was OJ. In fact, the two sets of prints by the Bruno Maglis, if Simpson the killer did not pick up the envelope (and did not see the glove and cap), seem like an intentional means of placing the Bruno Maglis at the scene of the crime. : : Glad to see that you at least acknowledging that one person wasn't able : : to control and slay two people at the exact same time. He also held a similar position at the Aspen Mezzaluna. Blood nobody could prove was planted. One was killed in the same manner as : : : Ron Goldman and Nicole. Arthritis pain could prevent Simpson from spotting the injury right away. 2. Nobody cares what you think about Fred Goldman. One was killed in the same manner as> > >Ron Goldman and Nicole. By the way, there may have been a number of other footprints at the scene that weren't so obvious that were either trampled by the cops moving along through the scene or just washed away at three in the afternoon. (b) It is not unreasonable to think that the evidence gloves are not OJ's (they didn't fit, and MacDonell's glove shrinkage experiment suggests that they wouldn't shrink significantly) AND OJ just happened to lose, throw away, give away, or otherwise get rid of the gloves he wore in Winter of 1994 AND nobody but him could confirm that. OJ Simpson's defense tried to connect the murders of Nigg, Simpson/Goldman, and Brett Cantor to a single killer, but there's not much evidence (if any) to suggest they're right. : : You'd rather not address any objections to this garbage. And where is the blue-black sweatsuit? Next, you will : grasp that the murders were drug related. >By the way, there may have been a number of other footprints at the >scene that weren't so obvious that were either trampled by the cops >moving along through the scene or just washed away at three in the >afternoon. [4], Authors Donald Freed and Raymond Briggs claimed in Killing Time (1996), their book about the Simpson case, that an unnamed source told them that while Nigg had lived in Colorado, he was known to law enforcement there to be "involved in the narcotics culture" in Aspen (where another branch of Mezzaluna is located) and Denver. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} One was killed in the same manner as Ron Goldman and Nicole. (a) There was a problem with the plumbing caused by Simpson's showering. It was also suspected among locals to be a drug frontin the two years after Goldman's death, two other Mezzaluna waiters were also murdered. It's been a long time since I worked as a busboy, maybe they tip a lot better these days, but owning a Mercedes is a little curious. Barry Hoestler, a private investigator hired for the Simpson case by llRobert Shapiro, said Nicole talked about the idea of opening a restaurant with Ron Goldman as her partner, and financing it with cocaine profits. He left sweatsuit fibers at the scene. 4 others have disappeared or >vanished. Remember that Keith Zlomsowitch took off for Florida. The connection is that they all worked at Mezzaluna. He didn't have the evidence until it was presented. Slick that thing back get some moose; some Tennex. I'm not sure of the facts as presented above. -A PROBLEM OF EVIDENCE. Why? [3], The Los Angeles County District Attorney's office prosecuted Simpson for the killings of Goldman and Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, based on the theory that Simpson, who had a history of domestic violence with her, had acted in a fit of rage upon realizing that she was not going to return to him. I must have missed that! On Thursday, February 13, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Noah's Dove wrote: On Friday, February 14, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, djd wrote: Most of the waiters working at the Mezzaluna were moonlighting as drug dealers. 2.1 miles away from Mezcaluna. When he refused, one of the men shot Nigg in the head. Your attempts to re-interpret facts are hilarious. The killer broke in after he came from Bundy to Rockingham to frame OJ. waiter at the Mezzaluna who was driving a Mercedes was gunned down in one of those LA robberies (like Ennis Cosby) where the person is gunned down without anything being taken. I Just don't understand. What you are about to read is not a news broadcast. He had to pin thanguilt on someone and it was OJ. And leave a glove just like >OJ's at the scene and one at Rockingham. I'm sure ifyou spin it fast enough you can blend up quite aconspiracy. Brett Cantor, who has been described as Goldman's former employer, former friend, and also as owning the club regularly attended by Ron, Nicole, and Faye Resnick (The Dragonfly, in Hollywood) had his throat slashed like the two Bundy victims on July 20, 1993, a year before the murders. Nobody asked Kato if the A/C was on! > The news report was that THE LA POLICE said that Nicole was probably at. Despite all the crap about this "having to be" a rage killing, it was. 4 others have disappeared or vanished. Why go to Bundy and start on Nicole, and wait for Ron to come: > through the gate? After graduating, he went to the Los Angeles area to try to start an acting or modeling career. O.J. He was never interviewed by police. The spectacle of police planting evidence is atleast as plausible as any explanation I've heard of why Simpson wouldcommit these murders. Simpson case, has shut its doors. Glad to see your argument is so : >flawed and ridiculous you must attempt to twist people's words around to. The facts prove Simpson is the murderer. : Duh! (Its location on San Vicente Boulevard is now a Peet's Coffee and Tea shop.) (c) The real killer made the thumps when he came to set OJ up. It's a fact of life in La La Land. >You can try to reason this out, or you can just keep >reposting this. Either OJ himself forgot to lock the Bronco, or Fuhrman had some other means of breaking in (a slimjim). It was too degraded. 10. I don't know if he gets theshits after eating a big fajita platter. The enormity of the gushing amounts of the victims' blood is every where.. On Thursday, February 13, 1997 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-8, Noah's Dove wrote: On Saturday, February 15, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, MSLU123 wrote: > You'd rather not address any objections to this garbage. Evans started his career in the entertainment field operating gaming tables in pre-Castro Cuba, in a milieu with the likes of Santos Trafficante, Meyer Lansky, Jack Ruby, and Frank Sturgis (aka Fiorini), one of the Watergate burglers. Given that Allan Park didn't notice the Bronco when he and OJ were leaving in the limo, it is not unreasonable to assume that the Bronco got taken to the crime scene by someone other than Simpson, so that person also got the gloves and another knitcap from the Bronco. Both potential victims have disappeared" -KILLING TIME. How come? ;-). Or after he left home en route to Bundy? So they kill a celebrity's ex-wife rather than taking him out while hewas in the shower, helpless. We are famous for our specialty pizzas and other Italian dishes, which are made fresh daily from the highest quality ingredients. : arde@idt.net wrote:: : Scott Matteson wrote:: : --snip--: : > Once more, if they were really after Ron, why did they attack Nicole: : > first? Review. Until then, stay safely in your pro-murderer dream world and don't let that sunlight of reality in to blind you if you can help it, Lucy.Don't talk to me about "EVIDENCE" backing up your fantasies because there is none. Quite a few amazing coincidences in this case (the Jeep door found open, Goldman's being in the wrong place in the wrong time, Faye's having been placed in the rehab shortly prior to the slayings. Have a little respect for the opinions ofothers -- or at least have something less insulting and moreintelligent to say! Closes in 25 min: See all hours. Slashed throats. I don't think Nichol was the target at all. And leave a glove just like OJ's at the scene and one at Rockingham. Slashed throats. This last word of yours seems a sound appropriate for you to make, Lucy. I never heard that he has gone to the moon and back.I never heard that he completed the surgical phase of his sex change operation. OJ even told the detectives>that those drops were his blood, so the samples marked from the>bronco and the five drops next to bloody footprints, were changed>to the blood that was collected from OJs house and drive. On the night after the killing, Nigg's friends gathered in the parking lot for a candlelight vigil. [a] Alternative theories of the murders, supposedly shared by Simpson, have suggested they were related to drug trafficking in the Los Angeles area,[4] and that Nigg's was as well; Nigg apparently lived very well for a waiter,[5] and there were some allegations he, too, had been involved in the drug trade while working at the Mezzaluna branch in Colorado before. "If anyone knows anything about the shooting that took place," he said, "just give the cops a call. This is one of your dumber statements - something hard to believe, I know. Your imagination is unbelievable. And why were there no fingerprints found in the Bronco? Michael Nigg, a waiter at the Mezzaluna Trattoria in Brentwood. There was Michael Nigg, a waiter at the Mezzaluna who was driving a Mercedes was gunned down in one of those LA robberies (like Ennis Cosby) where the person is gunned down without anything being taken.
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